Hot Tub Archive


October 2003


Willie, on 7 Oct 2003, said

What a screw....enough said.


Jímenez, on 7 Oct 2003, said

I hate my life. I wish I was dead.


Shackles, on 7 Oct 2003, said

why hello all...
it's been requested of me to post a limmerick about our dear upperclasswoman Shirley, that i so happily composed for everyone's entertainment on Roadtrip 1 to Illinois. so...
spoom, ah, whistle...a limmerick:

Shirley got home one day,
After "getting" a roll-in-the-hay,
She sat down and wailed,
Because she had failed,
After realizing the guy was gay.
Enjoy!

your "virginal" Hot Tub freshman,
Shackles


Shirley, on 7 Oct 2003, said

May Mike rot in Hell forever...


trashley, on 7 Oct 2003, said

shirley...you can just shut the fuck up.


Shirley, on 8 Oct 2003, said

So you're speaking to me now????


Willie, on 8 Oct 2003, said

DEEP BREATHS!!! everyone!


Shirley, on 8 Oct 2003, said

Nicely said Willie. p.s. Can I shave you again?


eSputante, on 8 Oct 2003, said

I would have to agree with Vladmir, and Willis.
Oh well, what the hell...
Here is to the best damn marching alternates in UW Band history! I get Lekrone's ladder!
Spooge


Shirley, on 8 Oct 2003, said

Spooge! Don't knock him off, that might seal you into "alternate" for all eternity...


Willie, on 8 Oct 2003, said

I think he meant that he gets to hold Mike's ladder, with intensity!


Jimenez, on 8 Oct 2003, said

Willie, just to clarify, today at practice, Fatty, Spooge, Shirley, and myself told Janice we would be holding the ladders on Saturday. She was more than happy to oblige(sp?). Maybe I should try to ensure that my breath reeks of a certain scent as Leckrone climbs up to start off pre-game . . .

Also, the four of us better be sure to line up right on rank A's asses as we leave Union South. We'll have plumes afterall.


Willie, on 8 Oct 2003, said

That's the spirit. And you can shove those plumes right up rank A's asses.


Sensation, on 8 Oct 2003, said

My question: with that much time for bibulous activities prior to game time, will you be holding the ladder up, or will the ladder be holding you up? ;-D


CHUBB, on 9 Oct 2003, said

You ever just want to smack someone?


Brian, on 9 Oct 2003, said

Wow, apparently you guys have had quite a week! $10,000 for Sheboygan and you can't even fucking eat at OCB? (or was my information incorrect on the latter?) Hell, for all that money you could have stayed in Green Bay on Friday and Saturday night!

Stool pigeons blow. Doesn't she realize that no one will ever treat her nicely again for her remaining years in band?

Although I find it hilarious that you have volunteered to hold Mike's ladder, I am worried that he may get angrier.

Fatty, Shirley, Jimi and Spooge: Your new rank is ALT-255. (If you try it on your computer, it returns a blank character -- get it? I'm trying to be funny, not insulting.)

See you at Pi Lunch. Fuck Ohio State.

--Waterboy

P.S. I'm working for the Northwestern Athletic Dept. now. Come down Oct. 25 and watch the Badgers spank the Wildcats in Evanston.


Jimenez, on 9 Oct 2003, said

I think Shirley and Beef already got to experience his "major malfunction".

And for those of you who haven't turned your profiles in yet, I have two notes:

  1. Get them in you ball-lickers, they were due 22 minutes ago
  2. Despite what some others may have done, do not think of your profile as a forum to express your opinions of the upperclass. If you don't have the guts to call me a lame-ass to my face, don't do it in your profile.
Here's hoping you don't spend the enitre MN roadtrip in the BOX!


Jimenez, on 9 Oct 2003, said

Carl . . . BOX!

Looks like you've already ended Beef's reign on the Sqwaker Award.


Jimenez, on 9 Oct 2003, said

Cubb-

I'll smack you, you son of a bitch!

Get that woman of yours in line (or give it to her up the pooper).


alumnus, on 9 Oct 2003, said

when did the hot tub become a chat board for ongoing lame coversations?


Stroker, on 9 Oct 2003, said

The Hot Tub has been a chat board for ongoing lame conversations since I made it, asshat.

Nice name, by the way, you anonymous piece of shit.


Sharing the great mood,

Stroker


Stroker, on 9 Oct 2003, said

You left the last word off of the second of your Woody Allen quotes in your profile, BuFu. It should be:

"I'm such a good lover because I practice a lot on my own children."
Lumpy, your attitude about dyed hair will change in a hurry once some punk chick lets you take off her panties. Ha! Fooled you--real punk chicks don't bother with underwear.


OK,

Stroker


alumnus, on 9 Oct 2003, said

As always, Stroker, you are such a dick.


Stroker, on 9 Oct 2003, said

I find it's important to play to one's own strengths.

And now you're a part of the fun, too! This passes all three tests: it's a conversation, it's ongoing, and it's unquestionably lame. Thanks for playing.

Asshat.


OK,

Stroker


CHUBB, on 9 Oct 2003, said

All this talk just proves my theory:

All Germans love David Hasselhoff, and Alumni or "Alumnus" are lame.


eSpugueso, on 9 Oct 2003, said

Asshat... That is funny...
My sides hurt...

I just thought of something. What is it with Pi's and red heads and getting into trouble. Is there a little known Pi Bi-Law that we should have know about here?

I am glad to see it is that time of year for annonymus alumni to start poping up again, because they contribute so well to the casual conversation that occurs on the Hot Tub. I am suprised to see that they stopped sitting on their thumbs long enough to type. Next time why don't you go fuck yourself instead.

DR. Etar I hope you are entertained.
XXX
Spooge


Jimenez, on 10 Oct 2003, said

I have a riddle:

What makes lame-ass conversations funny?


answer, on 10 Oct 2003, said

. . . drunkeness.

If Pudge were here (or ever in the Hot Tub for that matter) he would say, "You are the ones who are the ball-lickers."

JOehler's mom has got it going on and On Wisconsin!

jimi


Jimenez, on 10 Oct 2003, said

Didn't I make a rule at some point that this anonymous posting shit was not allowed anymore.


Spooge, on 10 Oct 2003, said

A call to arms:
My friends, we are in the midst of our darkest hour. Leckrone wants Mu Mu Pi to disappear, no more flags, no more songs, no more Pi Cards. 6 out of the 9 people he has kicked out of the band are saxophones, it looks like it will be 7 out of 10, and he blames it all on Mu Mu Pi.

Mu Mu Pi was founded because Leckrone started cutting the number of saxes down from 20 spots. The saxes at that time needed to bind together and stay close as they were quickly becoming extinct. Mu Mu Pi was founded for this reason, and 25 years later it is still going strong.

He has yet to dole out punishment to those of us who were involved, but it does look grim. In this our darkest hour, we as Mu Mu Pi must bind together and make a stand for our survival. It may be late for some of us who could be joining the ranks of alumni a little prematurely, but the rest of you can stand together and not stand for this attempt to ruin our tradition. He has been waiting years to get rid of Mu Mu Pi, and he feels this time he could do it.

He asked as he was questioning me "What good does Mu Mu Pi do for you?" With a tear in my eye I said "It gives me the best friends I've had in my life". He the asked what Mu Mu Pi did for the band, and I could not think of anything that would not make us sound more arrogant than he already thinks we are.

I understand that at this point the freshmen may not understand, but Mu Mu Pi keeps us together, makes us stronger, and gives us some of the best friends we will ever have. For this reason we can not go down without a fight. Everytime you sing our Varsity, scream it at the top of your lungs, everytime you play Varsity make sure you flip your hand where everyone can see it. Every time someone needs their Pi Card signed don't stop until it is done. Every kneebow should be prepared for like it is your last. Everytime the Pi Flag comes out make sure you run by Leckrone's ladder. Do these things to let him know that he could do his worst to us, but we will still be there waiting to do it all again.

One small toot from all musicians,
One giant blow from all saxophonists


Hot Carl, on 10 Oct 2003, said

Alrite I submitted my profile!


Shirley, on 10 Oct 2003, said

OSU-
Fuck you, eat shit and die.
Love Shirley


Jimenez, on 12 Oct 2003, said

Shirley, I think we fucked 'em, they have eaten shit, and when it comes to the quest for the National Championship, they are as good as dead.


eSpumoso, on 13 Oct 2003, said

Ohio is not a state.
'nuf said
Spu


Jimenez, on 13 Oct 2003, said

Suan-

I may be going out on a limb here, but it seems to be a common misconception that the term "homecoming" refers to the football team's return to the friendly confines of its home stadium. This understanding of the term is incorrect. Homecoming is traditionally the date that alumni are to return back to campus to celebrate and remember days gone by. Just to be certain, I made a brief visit to Merriam-Webster Online:

Main Entry: home·com·ing
Pronunciation: 'hOm-"k&-mi[ng]
Function: noun
Date: 14th century
1 : a return home
2 : the return of a group of people usually on a special occasion to a place formerly frequented or regarded as home; especially : an annual celebration for alumni at a college or university

Always your faithful servant,

Jimi-Eat-Nuts (perferably of the OSU variety)


Suan, on 13 Oct 2003, said

Jimi:
I'd spoken to eSpúreo about this homecoming thing before: while I haven't found any documentation to substantiate the "football team coming home" version, I suspect there's some historical foundation behind it. Anyhow, I used it because I think it fit in with my "statement of the week" ;-D


Shirley, on 13 Oct 2003, said

Hey Palomino-
Did you happen to see the Badger Herald today? Page 6?


Willie, on 13 Oct 2003, said

Shirley, you suck, you beat me to the punch. I will be bringing a copy of the herald for tomorrow's practice. On another note, "GAMEDAY" is coming to Madison!


mmmm.... , on 13 Oct 2003, said

willie


Willie, on 14 Oct 2003, said

What the hell? Bufu- if that is you I'm going to kick the living piss out of you. Chuckles perhaps? Are you that taken by me? I know you saw me at the wedding all dressed up in my band sweater. Oh and by-the-way I hate anonymous postings.


Hot Carl, on 14 Oct 2003, said

"All late profiles will be penalized by a means deemed neccesary by a Bandito tribunal."

-Alrite Banditos, how can I get my profile changed?


Chuckles, on 14 Oct 2003, said

Sexy as the sweater is... sorry but I don't think so.


Jimenez, on 16 Oct 2003, said

Happy 21st birthday Pudge, you lazy fuck/lucky son-of-a-bitch. I hate you.

Here's to gettin' wastoid tonight.


Stroker, on 17 Oct 2003, said

Pi Lunch today, while quiet, had a highlight that I have to share with those who weren't in attendance.

Beefstick walks in with a fairly hot chick and I take a deep breath, figuring out something mildly inappropriate to say to the two of them, when Spooge yells "Beefstick! Beefstick's mom!"

My mouth shuts, my eyes bug out, and then Beefstick's mom starts laughing and referring to American Pie. "What do they call that woman...Stiffler's mom?"

At which point I nearly fucking die, desperately trying to avoid saying "No, they called her MILF."

At any rate, Beef, it's obvious that you get it from your mom. You come from good stock.


Would've bought Beef's mom a drink, but Beef's dad was there, too,

Stroker


PS- Given the opportunity, I would've closed that deal, too, if only to forever win the Your Mom game, at least versus Beefstick.


Willie, on 17 Oct 2003, said

Alumni, your mission in the next week is to get on Beef's Mom. No Excuses, get further with her than you ever have before or you DRINK! (and I'll try and come up with a better punishment then that, cause that's a reward). Just turning the table on you Stroker. Trying to make you feel young again, if that is even possible.

Signed,
-Sir Willhelm of the Night


Shirley, on 19 Oct 2003, said

Reminder:
Driving release forms to Mahano on TUESDAY.


Shirley, on 21 Oct 2003, said

Palomino-
Send your pictures to Suan, the website is lacking...


Sputame, on 24 Oct 2003, said

Happy 10-24 to one and all!
Spooge


Jimenez, on 25 Oct 2003, said

Twenty-five years in the making, the moment of truth for Mu Mu Pi has arrived.

As you all are aware, three of us have been in a state of indefinite suspension for the past three weeks. Yesterday we finally learned what the cost of our reinstatement would be.

For us to rejoin the band, Leckrone, being the dictator that he is, has ordered that two conditions be met. First, we are to publicly apologize for our actions. Secondly, and of great importance to each of you, he wishes that we turn possession of all "Pi Gear" over to him. This includes the following; the Pi Flag, all current member's Pi Cards, the stock of blank Pi Cards, and the Mu Mu Pi "plaque" mounted on top of the tower. Along with this transfer of possession, he demands that he never see any trace of Mu Mu Pi again.

First and foremost, we wish to acknowledge that the decision to comply with these demands is out of our hands. Because of the far-reaching impact, this is a decision that must be made by Mu Mu Pi as a whole, not just a few. The future of Mu Mu Pi and the future of the band are in our hands.

Let me explicate what adhering to Leckrone's conditions entails. The founding chapter of Mu Mu Pi is essentially dead, yet it is only dead publicly. No longer are we allowed to carry a Pi Flag. No longer are we allowed to sing " . . . praise to thee for Mu Mu Pi," at any band function. No longer are we allowed to raise our hands and form our letters in the presence of Leckrone. No longer can we wear our letters at practice, or anywhere else for that matter. Mike never wants to see a Pi Card again, let alone sign one. In his words, it all means "no more Mu Mu Pi shit!"

However, privately, Mu Mu Pi can and will live on. You are free to continue gathering at the Big Ten every Friday, and you may even call it "Pi Lunch", so long as you do not refer to it as that when Leckrone is around. Heck, you might as well get in the habit of singing at lunch instead of on the bus, or at humanities. As Stroker said, in the true spirit of William Wallace, Leckrone can take away what we have; he can do whatever he wants with our stuff, but he can never take away what we do.

Leckrone has made it clear that failure to comply will result in much more than the official dismissal of Fatty, Spooge, and myself. He is seizing this opportunity to kill Mu Mu Pi once and for all. He has stated that he will make life difficult for those who do not turn their Pi Cards in. He has also threatened to remove all senior members from the section should he see any trace of Mu Mu Pi in the future, whether it be this year or any other year down the road. It appears that no matter what happens, he will dismantle Mu Mu Pi and he will use any means necessary to do it.

Yet, in a very un-Leckrone move of "generosity", he has promised that should we fully comply, he will no longer have any reason to pick on us. The degrading saxophone jokes and the "threats" to remove the entire section will cease. The UW Marching Saxophones will essentially be given a blank slate and he will treat us as equals with the rest of the band.

After discussing this with many of you, I see that we are all torn between laughing at the ridiculousness of the situation, and being astonished and upset at the idea that he thinks he can actually do this to us. You all have a personal decision to make. While in large part Mike has tried to make that decision for you, each one of you must search your soul and decide what you think is best not just for you, but for the section as a whole. How do we proceed? I have my ideas, and others have theirs, but we need to come to a consensus.

We will be meeting as a section this Tuesday immediately after practice (we will find a discussion spot once we get together). It is important that you come to that meeting with an open and patient mind. I expect many people will be very opinionated, but we will need to do our best to maintain a productive discussion. Your presence at this meeting is important, but should you wish to not be involved in the decision-making process, you are free to be absent. You must understand, however, that you will have to abide by the decision made by the group.

Willie plans to discuss the situation further with Mike on Monday, and I expect the meeting will start out with a report from Willie about that discussion. Right now, there is no reason for anyone else to go speak to Mike, so please, do not get any ideas. Take sometime this weekend to think about your future in Mu Mu Pi, and come on Tuesday ready to find a way to bring this issue to a close.

Regretfully,

Jimi


Willie, on 27 Oct 2003, said

So if you haven't looked at the pictures on the band website, now is the time. I highly recommend looking at Petunia's picture. He must be one of those people in the band representing' for the Deep South. Be sure to floss daily kids, and Petunia, you can use a jump rope.


Sparkles, on 27 Oct 2003, said

nice observation willie


Jimenez, on 27 Oct 2003, said

Letter to the Editor:

I recently read your column on "tough love" for grandparents of misbehaving children, whose own parents let them run wild. I have followed your advice, and enclosed a picture demonstrating my technique when my grandson just won't behave while I am babysitting.

His parents (my son and his wife) have told me not to spank him, so I just take him for a ride and talk to him. He usually calms down and stops misbehaving after our little car ride together.

Signed,


"The Tough Love Grandpa"


Jimenez, on 27 Oct 2003, said

. . . got that one in an email recently


Spurier, on 28 Oct 2003, said

Than should I thank you for not filling my inbox with crap?


Stroker, on 29 Oct 2003, said

Jimi, it's not my work, but I have to share it, anyway:



OK,

Stroker


Dr. Etar, on 29 Oct 2003, said

Fatty's happy day:


Tracy, on 30 Oct 2003, said

Since I don't have any of your e-mail addresses....any new news on the Leckrone situation?

After taking a brief survey of the alumni, the concenses so far is that you guys should stand up to him. I on the other hand don't totally agree. Is MuMuPi worth making your life in band hell? Band/MuMuPi is supposed to be fun. MuMuPi is never going to go away completely. There are too many of us old alumni out there...you guys as an active chapter need to make your own decision. If it has to go away on the band level, maybe MuMuPi becomes an alumni thing i.e. you can't get a Pi card until you become alumni??? Just think how much fun we could have with that :-) Anyway, the alumni are checking the hot tub for updates.

Thanks!
Tracy

P.S. 9th annual Mumupi/Drummer ski trip is being planned for either 3/6-7 or 3/13-14. Cast your vote now.


Mutt, on 30 Oct 2003, said

Can a compromise be reached? Like someone above said, you can't really make it go away...even without cards, etc. So my suggestions are these:

First, he has always hated us and probably always will. Anything you can do to make it tolerable should be done. The important thing is that there are saxophones in the band. The group will make itself and its identity up anyways.

Second, can you "cut a deal" to say that he will not hear of MuMuPi again and make it that way, yet keep doing what you are doing? Obviously, he will not sign cards, but that is hardly the end of the world. In exchange, you keep the flag and current cards. Give him the blank cards, who cares? Just go get more printed!

Frankly, I would love to hear how we are hurting the band. Is it because we have a name? Exclusivity certainly applies to ALL sections...tuba...drums...whatever...we just happen to have a name for ourselves. Is our section otherwise different? Has the current situation in our section changed from the past sections? Are we now a group of ONLY saxophones, ignoring, tormenting, and purposely hurting others in the band who are not saxophones? Are we a bunch of snobs who won't be friends with or talk to other, non-saxes? I bet not, but then again, I am not there...so inform us!

Band was the best group I have ever been a part of and I would hope that others down the road have the same opportunity and honor of being a saxophone and playing in the UW Marching band as we all have. Undoubtedly, we have all made lifelong friends...saxes and non-saxes as a result of being in the band. Make THAT tradition continue! While MuMuPi has been the "title" of our group, I doubt it has "made" the group and the people in it.


Mutt, on 30 Oct 2003, said

Hey everyone...how about posting things other people care to hear other than your lame ass rantings? I just scanned down the whole list...no wonder you are pissing Leckrone off. At least most fellow alum can probably attest, we did our ranting in private and in person...much funnier, and it didn't make us seem like idiots.


Rj, on 30 Oct 2003, said

WOW. I have just become aware of the current "situation," i.e. Professor Leckrone's latest quest to eliminate MuMuPi. I don't know if you still want input, but here's my two-cents.

Mike & I never really saw eye-to-eye, even when I marched 241. Believe me kids, I know the feelings you have right now. My gut tells me to tell you to STAND UP! Because I was, at one time, where you are today. But I realize now, many years since my marching days, that it is important to try to see the bigger picture. Let's not lose sight of the youngin's coming up behind you. It's difficult to realize the level of emotional pressure Mike can place on you while you're in "his" band. Think of the legacy you will be leaving behind. You can always order more cards. You think I want Mike to have the flag I myself ordered for the section so many years ago? Hell no! But, would a reduction, ok elimination, of the outward signs of the group really diminish the spirit of MuMuPi? I like the awarding of Pi cards as 1st year alum idea. Maybe that kind of secret ceremony (candles, paddles, barnyard animals...ok no barnyard animals) would spark a resurgance in the alumni Pi activity?

Food for thought brothers and sisters. In any case, know that there are a few alumni (at least 6 of us according to someone's research above) who share your pain.

Please post with the results of this saga.

Sincerely,
Rj
Rank 24, 1986-1990


Spooge, on 31 Oct 2003, said

For those out of the loop, here is the deal.

We decided to give him what he wanted. He now has all our cards, a good stack of the blanks, and the flag. He has said however that he will not destroy any of the items, and if we all wanted our personal cards back we had to wait until we were alumni when he wouldn't care what we did. The flag it sounded like he was going to keep. I told him when I turned in the stuff that some alumni were interested in getting it back, but he said he was going to keep it. Go talk to him anyway if you want it back.

As far as the group is concerned he is putting us on probation, which is better than what he first proposed of completely eradicating us. We can get off of probation by showing that Mu Mu Pi can be a positive thing for the band. My interpertation of this is we have about a two year period of good behavior and Mu Mu Pi can be back.

All of the current members were enraged at first by the proposal that we give up our stuff, and were going to fight to the bitter end, but we quickly realized that fighting this would be extremely futile because he could keep us off the field and there would be nothing we could do about it. It has been also pointed out that he suspiciously took 8 freshmen this year, which could replace all of us on the field, so either way we lose.

We plan to keep things going on so have no fear about the tradition dying, we just don't get to be Mu Mu Pi in the band setting, we are just the UW Saxes. It should be the responsibility of the upperclass and the alumni to let the freshmen and sophomores know how important it is to keep the tradition alive. I say this because in two years or however long this probation is going to be, they are the ones who have to decide if they want to bring it back or let it die.

That's the story. Alumni feel free to keep posting your feelings, I think it helps those of us who do not yet realize how strong Mu Mu Pi actually is.

Spooge


chuckles, on 31 Oct 2003, said

I think it is terrible that you guys gave in to Lekrone. I'm sure he has been wanting this for years. The constitution gives everyone the right of freedom of association which means Lekrone cannot demand that mumupi cease to exist.

Maybe alumni should no longer endow spots in the band and pass the word on to alumni of all instruments to do the same. Lekrone should not be able to treat any section this way and perhaps this would let him know how we feel.


Concerned Alumni, on 31 Oct 2003, said

Hello everyone,

I think the correct way to word it about getting the flag back is, "We will get it back" meaning those still seniors and in band, not "Go talk to him anyway about getting it back." The flag has managed to stay in the section up until this time, so those responsible must find a way to get it back. You have let an entire section down. Please keep us all posted about what exactly needs to happen to get it back. That is the one true piece of history and has been to everything from the 1994 Rose Bowl to every Big Ten school. Also, just out of curiosity, what exactly do you all have to do to prove you can be a positive influence in the band?